Many thanks for the feed back guys, I really appreciate your input. I was worried that this spot was pretty straightforward (bet / ship), and that I was just over thinking the situation, but in view of your comments and varying views I think it was somewhat of a tricky spot.
It seems like from your comments Rob and Rosh, bet fold the turn, and Roomy and Harry bet / ship.
I am kind of curious as to what line Mr Bulgaria (Andrey) himself would of took, but I guess he is thinking; “..shut up you fucking Turk, what are you talking about, bet / ship every fucking time, he shows me a better hand, well I sell a goat and re load..”
By the way I hope my rant about Bulgarians didn’t offend you Andrey, I love you like an uncle please don’t take it personally I was (half) joking.
So this is what happened…
Yes, I bet 80 Euros. I had decided that I was 100% going with the hand. Sorry but I made up my mind. I cant be checking here, and I cant be bet folding here, both lines in my opinion are well too weak.
Especially in these donk fest games, even though I think I am playing against a thinking / competent player.
If I was playing against someone I had played with for years at The Vic, I could bet / fold here, but seriously I cant give this guy credit with only couple of hours of table time (even though he seemed good, doesn’t mean he is good).
But, when he did the whole “Hollywood” act, with the cigarette and gave me the “have you got an ace” speech. I really felt I was beat. My gut told me 100% I was beat. You know that gut feeling you get sometimes when you think you are good with bottom pair, and the same gut that tells you are beat when you have the 2nd nuts, the gut which kind of defies any logic or analysis?
Well my gut told me I was beat. So I hesitated. I had planned to bet, and insta ship on this Bulgarian mother fucker. But I froze. I tanked again.
I went through pretty much everything we spoke about His ranges, my image, his image, what I had seen him show down, etc, and that told me I was only losing to 33 or A3 (nothing else), and that would be fucking unlucky, I tried to tell myself this dude has ace rag like most the time here.
There was a little crowd gathering around the table, if I called the pot was going to be pretty big (don’t forget about how shallow I said these games played, a 600+ Euro pot is something to look at in these games).
I told myself you are second guessing yourself, you planned to go with the hand , so go with it.
And if I am being honest, I had taken a few “bags of sand” with me to Bulgaria (thinking to play 2-5), so I felt no value for the money in a way (you know it wasn’t my case buy in). I kind of wasn’t that bothered, I just wanted to make the right decision.
I didn’t want to get owned by some Bulgarian neither.
So I shipped. It was another 100 for him to call.
He spoke in Bulgarian to the dealer and to the other grinder, and put the money in.
While the dealer (who was retarded and very slow) was getting the money together before dealing the river card ,I asked the guy if he had A3, and that the only hand I was putting him on was 33 or A3.
He turned over one ace. I told him I had AQ, and asked him not to be a cunt, and show me if he had A3.
He smiled, and I knew I was beat and drawing to a Q or a 10.
The river was a brick. He looked at me and said I called you. I showed him AQ (knowing he was slow rolling me -very popular in Bulgaria. I got slow rolled so many times in 10 days that I think its kind of bad manners not to do it).
He showed me A3 off.
Meh.
Yigit
2 comments:
88You knew it but still had to pay him off - this is a big problem with playing 1/2, if you were playing 2/5 and this decision was for 500 euros have changed your out look? I know the amount of money should not come into a poker decision however at times it does.
Bust that "goat rustler" up!
Looks like you picked up one new move in Bulgaria....you TOTALLY slow rolled us with the outcome!! :o)
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