Seriously why are they all such fucking retarded cunts? Sorry Andrey but hear me out on this one.
The numerous Bulgarians I have come across are just either really fucking rude, or think they are always right. There is no point having a discussion with them, because they are just so fucking single minded -and generally above all really moody people.
Its like they get out on the wrong side of bed every fucking day! What the fuck? Seriously I have never come across people who are just outright this nasty. No warmth, no humour, just fucking rude all the fucking time and very unhelpful.
Yeah I suppose if you get to know Andrey, he a cool dude, and pretty amusing. But he also has some of the characteristics of what I am talking about. He also thinks he is always fucking right (ever try fucking discussing a hand with the moron!). Also Bulgarian Terry too (from The Vic), how moody is he? My god!
Andrey please explain to me why your people are such fucking moody cunts? Please?
This doesn’t really apply to the girls, who just stand around looking cute most the time. But are also annoying as fucking hell because in Golden Sands there is like a fucking army of girls handing out leaflets / fliers to various clubs and bars, and its like a fucking fight to get yourself through the main strip!
NO FUCK OFF I DON’T WANT GO ON A FUCKING PUB CRAWL!
GET THE FUCK OUT MY FACE, I DON’T WANT TO GO TO JIMMY’S KAROKE BAR!
AND NO I STILL DON’T FUCKING CARE IF ITS HAPPY HOUR!
You know what’s even more annoying? They are always fucking wrong! They seem to fucking have no common sense, or any sense of logic. In fact I would say I have come across some of the dumbest people, who have made some of the most dim-witted decisions or statements I have ever heard.
I suppose I don’t really like people in general but seriously fucking hell Bulgaria sort it out!
I wont bother giving you various examples of such behaviours because I seriously cant be bothered, but I am not just talking about incidents I have experienced at the casino. I have come across Bulgarians acting like cunts throughout my stay, at the hotel, on the beach, in restaurants, taxis, fucking hell this place is full of cunts!
Having said all that, I would still recommend coming to Bulgaria on a vacation because its nice, and also I understand (being Turkish), that their mannerisms are not personal, its just the way these cunts are. Its Bulgarian people for you, similar to Turks and Greek’s to an extent, moody bastards.
Wow, do I like to moan?
Anyhow, I was involved in a pretty good game tonight. I have been somewhat disappointed this year, as most the games have not had much money in them.
Most trons buy in for the minimum (40 Euros), and will let that stack dwindle down to like 10-20 Euros. I was in game the other night where I bought in for 200 Euros and had the whole table covered.
The games do get deeper as the night goes on, but most the winners seem to lock up or leave so its kind of shit really. Tonight was different.
I found myself in a pretty deep game. There were 2 players who I would say were local (young) grinders, and bought in for the maximum (200 Euros). There were 2 German nerds who also bought in for the maximum (one of whom kept on weeding money on to table and topping up when he lost pots), and a couple of others who bought in for 100 Euros). Compared to my previous sessions this was good, very good!
Straight off the bat, 1st hand I picked up AA, on the button, there was a couple of trons limping, and a raise up to 10 by the cut off. I re pop to 35, the dude insta ships on me with QQ. I snap, and end up losing to a flush.
No big deal, I re load.
Within the space of 30-45 minutes, chips have been flying around and I find myself 400 Euros deep, with the two local grinders also chipped up (actually covering me), and I would say with the exception of a couple of spots the game is playing 150-200 big blinds deep.
The following hand comes up, and I am still not quite sure if I took the right line (after several hours of thinking and analyses of the hand)…
Usual limp fest, I have Ad Qh on the button. I raise it up to 12, and eliminate half the limping trons, and head to the flop 4 way (it may have been 5 way actually but for sake of discussion lets say 4 way).
Ac 10s 3c. There is about 50-55 in the pot.
The action is checked to me. I bet 40.
The action folds around to one of the local grinders who calls 40.
I realise decisions from this point are very much situational, so let me try and give you all the information I have on this guy at this stage.
He seems to be playing a lot looser than the other grinder. I would of said he was playing loose passive pre flop, and slightly more aggressive with marginal holdings post flop.
He limped junk, and also limped called raises with junk pre flop.
He played hands in which he limped (or limped called) passively and the hands he raised pre flop very aggressively post flop.
He won a couple of big pots, and in those hands he showed down monster hands (AA twice, and a set once), and had played them pretty standard.
He played one hand with the other grinder, a massive pot for about 600 Euros which stood out to me.
He limped with 10 8 off (mid to late position), and called a raise by the other grinder (who was in the big blind).
The flop was J 9 Q (two clubs). The big blind bet, he raised him 50 more, and was called.
The turn brought an ace and completed the flush. The big blind now led 75. Which he called.
The river paired the ace. The final board read J 9 Q A A (three clubs), the big blind led again this time for 150, and he had called. His flopped straight was good.
I felt that the way the hand played out, especially against a grinder (who was up a few hundred) his straight was very marginal, and I would of struggled to call the river bet. I mean his straight is pretty much a bluff catcher in this spot.
From various comments he made during hands, his overall table presence, and his competent post flop play he seemed an alert, thinking player.
So back to my hand with him.
The turn paired the ace. The board read Ac 10s 3c Ah (two clubs). Pot is about 130.
The action is once again checked to me.
So what do you do here?
I have about 300 in my stack. If I decide to bet here, am I pretty much committing myself to the hand?
Or could I still bet, fold to a raise?
Do I risk giving away a free card in order to exercise pot control?
If I took that line, I could call a river bet, or maybe bet for value if checked to me. If the flush gets there could I fold?
What range of hands call the flop bet which can call a second bet here, or in fact thinking a step ahead would check raise me here?
I didn’t want to bet, and be like, “Oh, shit, now he raised what the fuck?”. So I dwelled up for a minute or two before I made my decision for the hand as a whole not just my current action.
Does this thinking time make me look weak? Do I have to factor this into my thinking into future decisions in the hand?
What does this dude put me on if I decide to bet the turn?
What has been my image at the table? Very solid, I have been pretty active, but only because I have been getting cards to be so, I have showed down good hands.
I had however in a previous pot (about a hour ago), raised the button, and bet an ace high flop into 3 or so players, was called in two spots, one guy with bottom pair, and another with a draw. I had to check behind both the turn and river with my King high, and the bottom pair won the pot.
Not sure if the above hand factors in the hand (or my opponent’s thought process), but for me I felt I could of got floated light here.
Say if I bet ¾ of the pot (80 ish leaving behind 220), what would this guy think about my hand. He has to be convinced I have an ace right?
I am aware that he is an alert player, alert enough to notice I have not been raising junk (especially in multi limp pots), so not only does he have to put me on an ace but an ace with a good kicker right?
So if he did check raise me, would I be safe in the knowledge that he turned a full house? There is no way this guy could raise with a worse ace, or could he?
I might be levelling myself here, but what about if this guy knew, that I knew he was an alert thinking player, and that I knew that he knew that I had an ace with a good kicker, and hence he knew that I would not think he would raise with a worse hand in this spot, but in fact because he knew that I knew that he knew that, maybe he would pull this play off.
I thought about the above, but I simply could not give him credit for that level of thinking (with only a couple hours of play).
I pretty much concluded that if he did check raise me, I was beat.
So why bet? Why bet 80, in anticipation of a raise and fold?
Why not check, and call 80 on the river if the flush got there, or if it missed, or bet 80 if checked to? Would that not be a better line? (Or is that really weak?)
Is it me? This spot on the surface seems pretty straightforward, if you are beat then it’s a cooler, and am I good here most the time?
So say if I bet 80, and he check raised me all in? Call or fold based on what I have discussed.
Another line which I thought about was kind of funky, say if I decided I was good here. I wanted the guy to continue with worse hands, and even induce bluffs from him. A bet of 80, would of only achieved a limited number of outcomes, the guy would check raise me all in with a better hand (which I am calling anyway), he would fold most the hands which I beat, and might call me with a flush draw.
So if I think I am good here, and decided either way I am going to go with hand, why not donk bet something like 25-45, trying to induce a bluff from under pairs, (and other junk hands which this guy may of floated me with), and also keep him in with hands which in his mind have certain show down value (again under pairs, and K10, Q10, J10, 109 etc).
Yeah, similar to the check behind option, I am giving away value to flush draws but just because there is two clubs on the board does not necessary mean my opponent has to have a flush draw.
On a board of A 10 3 A.
He cant have the following holdings: AK, AJ, A10, 10 10. Because he would of raised pre flop and not limp in.
There is small chance that he has: 33 through to 88 (and maybe even 99). He may limp with these.
He could also have any 10, which he 100% would float me with.
He could easily have any worse ace, but also A3.
So what beats me here that I can put him on. 33 or A3. That’s it. Seriously. That’s it. A10 and 1010 would of raised pre flop.
The case ace if he has A3, would be very unlikely.
So if he check raised the turn (if I bet), the only hand I can realistically be scared of is 33, is that right?
Putting into that context, would you be fearful of betting the turn, and in fact deciding to go with the hand? Even if you put everything into context (upon his possible check raise on the turn)?
Could he ship the turn with a pair + flush draw? If I bet 80? If I bet 40? Based on my deliberation which he may interpret as weakness? Yes?
My god! Pretty sick (and kind of exciting just thinking about this hand).
So I am going to open this up, please either leave a comment with your views or drop me a message on Facebook.
If you need some more details about the hand please ask, I may of left out some crucial factors (which you think are relevant).
Or if you are thinking what the fuck are you talking about you stupid Turk, easy bet, and ship -well what can I say I am a super donk!
Yigit out!
6 comments:
I like your line however I believe that he there are 4 hands that he could possibly hold which beat you A3, 33, 88 and A 10 which I dont believe that he will raise you with pre-flop. However at the turn he either has you crushed or you have him crushed there is no doubt about it. With the Q kicker I like to go with the hand as most of these trons are unable to pass A rag in this spot and you want to be able to ship the river for value and if you don't bet the turn you cant ship the river. If he is drawing and he misses the river you get no further value from your trips, maybe I am wrong, but I go with it on the turn. If he ships the river you have a decision to make, which can be further assessed at that stage, using the information of the river card, physical tells, and instinct. Even if you have to pass you are still left with 220 Euros.
Oh - I presume you lost the hand and that he had A 10?
in that hand with the bulgarian do u not ever think hes check raising u on the flop with A10 and A3? If he slow plays and a K J Q comes on the turn hes gotta be thinking u could be holding AK AQ AJ . He has to think however that u cant have a flush d...raw cos in a limp call fest hes probably thinking ud take the free card on the button if its checked to you. Slow playing a set is in his range here as i think he cant put u on a flush draw and hes pretty sure u have an A, so hes probably hoping u make two pair on the turn or something. The dude like u sed plays passively postflop unless hes raised the flop so maybe he check called with A9 A8.
When u tank on the turn he could be thinkin u have a monster and ur trying to think how to extract value maybe with 1010 or A10 urself or he thinks ur weak here and may check raise u with A9 or A8. I think ur losing to one hand here on the turn which is 33 and if u bet u have to go with the hand. U HAVE OUTS if he has 33.
Bilybob is back! Weeee...you sicko! Im soo curious to know what you did when you were drunk, that you have to hide away from The Vic for....please share (via a private route of communication ofcourse! You dog!)...
What you talking about 88? The board is A 3 10 A, no 8 in play! Anyhow...
This dude was pretty active, and I really thought he would of raised pre flop (in late to mid position) with A10. So I somewhat took that out of his range....
Yeah for sure I didnt like checking the turn, because I really thought he could have a flush draw and I miss out on sick sick value...
Also Ramey you fish you are thinking about what I thought about too. I felt because I dwelled up, he may of thought his rag ace was good there! But after some thought I thought no way would he think that, given my solid image. And I would usually give ramdom Bulgarians credit for picking up my ranges, but this one seemed competent.
I really felt sick betting the turn, and evening sickier checking it. Because that line is soooo weak....
Ammmm......horse he didnt have A10, and who said I lost the hand?
So how much you trons betting on the turn? Exact lines please, with what ifs...(what if he min raised? what if he put me on all in? what if he flats...and flush hits...etc)...
I promise I will post results...
i meant I WOULDNT give credit to ramdoms but this one way pretty observant and competent...enough to notice and take note of my range in this spot...
Those chairs look well comfy. What do you reckon are the chances we can get Jeff to bring those in at the Vic?
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